U0165
Lost Communication with HVAC Front Module
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Overview
The U0165 diagnostic trouble code indicates lost communication with hvac front module. This means one or more control modules on the vehicle's communication network are unable to exchange data properly. Network communication faults can affect multiple vehicle systems simultaneously and may cause various warning lights, reduced functionality, or driveability issues depending on which modules are affected.
Symptoms
- Speedometer/tachometer not working
- Airbag warning light on
- Vehicle enters limp mode with reduced power
- Vehicle may not start or stall unexpectedly
Common Causes
- Failed control module (ECM, TCM, BCM, etc.)
- Low battery voltage or failing alternator
- Poor ground connection at module
- Blown fuse in module power supply circuit
Diagnosis Steps
- 1Connect an OBD-II scanner and read all stored trouble codes across all modules
- 2Check for multiple U-codes which indicate a bus-level problem vs single module failure
- 3Inspect battery voltage and charging system (12.4V+ engine off, 13.5-14.5V running)
- 4Inspect the CAN bus wiring for damage, chafing, or exposed conductors
- 5Check the affected module connector for corrosion, bent pins, or water intrusion
- 6Verify module power and ground circuits with a multimeter
Estimated Repair Cost
$100 — $1,500
Cost varies by vehicle, location, and repair shop. Includes parts and labor.
Commonly Affected Vehicles
GMC SierraToyota CamryHyundai SonataToyota RAV4
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CriticalFrequently Asked Questions
U-codes are network communication codes that indicate a control module has lost communication with another module. This can be caused by wiring problems, a failed module, low battery voltage, or CAN bus issues. Multiple U-codes usually point to a bus-level problem.